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Gawith & Hoggarth - Yay or Nay?

JarhogJarhog Member
edited November 2013 in Types of Snuff
I have tried a dozen or so G&Hs and can't say that any of them are great. Some like SP, M4X, and Sea Breeze are not bad but things like Jockey Club are horrible. I noticed on the what's in your nose page I hardly ever see someone using G&H. Do they appeal to anyone. How did they stay in business so long. Those in the business, I would like to here how they sell and do you get repeat orders.

Overall I can't say that I like or love any of them.
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  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    While this is rather embarassing, I have to say that I've never tried ANY of thier snuffs.
  • All the G&H snuffs I've tried are poor quality, chemically, sneezy and just don't sit straight with me. I don't like them at all.

    Stefan
  • Are they the little shiny, yellowish, square boxes? If so - I tried a few of them, and felt chemically poisoned - not a trace of tobacco!
  • Viking - That sounds like them all right. I am seeing a pattern already.
  • sandy130674sandy130674 Member
    edited August 2009 PM
    They are good quality snuffs. I always keep a good stock and some of them are absolute favourites such as Mitchells, Jockey Club, Fleurette and CM. Kendal Brown has one of the most natural tobacco flavours of all snuffs I've tried.

    If I was to rate my top five snuff makers it would be: 1) Wilsons/F&T, 2) Gawith Hoggarth, 3) McChrystals, 4) Samuel Gawith, 5) Bernard. I'm afraid Toque doesn't quite make my top five, although their toasts and Natural snuffs are top notch, it's just I've had one too many objectionable ones so far.

    What appeals to me about Gawith Hoggarth snuffs is their natural tobacco base and subtleness. Proper English snuff. No confected nonsense. No Coca Cola, pomegranate and cheesy wotsits. They have a fine tradition in this country.

    I will not join the herd on this one, sorry.
  • I love GH's English Rose and like the only other I've tried, Fleurette.

    I should buy a couple more from my tobacconists but they seem to mostly stock GH's florals. Though I did notice C&M in a market shop yesterday. It's just a shame I wont be buying any more snuff for a while.
  • Oh yes, English Rose, how could I forget it. I really enjoy that one, together with Wilsons Rose of Sharrow. Unfortunately I've run out of both.
  • I absolutely love most Gawith Hoggarth snuffs. Some favorites would be Spartan, Fleurette, Ambassador, English Rose, Jasmin, Wild Mint, CM, Dry Orange, Tia Maria the list could go on and on. I would have to say they make the best floral snuffs in the business. I have all their current snuffs in my collection, with doubles and triples of some of my favorites. There are only two of them I didn't really care for, Almond and Whisky. They get a bit of a bad rap around here, but I didn't let that discourage me when selecting snuffs, and I'm glad for that.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    They are on my buy list. It's all just a matter of time. One that I want quite badly is Sea Breezes, I would love a snuff that could take me to the beach!
  • @leman, I always have some Tia Maria in stock and I love the Dry Orange. But, it's "horses for courses", and I don't mind to admit that I like a lot of GH snuffs. Nothing wrong with that brand as far as I'm concerned.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    Sandy, no idea why you chose to single out Toque. Toque makes a fine snuff. Just because Roderick keeps the naming simple does not detract from the product. The truth is, Roderick's product is much more marketable to a younger generation than a lot of traditional brands. I also respect the fact that Roderick does not use chemical additives to his products. Just tobacco and flavorings. Nothing artificial. The Cheese and Bacon Toast was started as a goof, it just happens to be that people actually like it! I'm sure that Gawith Hoggarth is a fine snuff, but so is Toque. Roderick has introduced flavors that some companies would never dream of trying, the Cheese and Bacon included. I personally think it's pretty imaginative to have a Grapefruit snuff, or a Pomegranate, or Peanut Butter. Thing is, nobody mentioned or said "Toque is better than GH" or "GH is junk, Toque is better". Every snuff has it's rightful place in the business. What does not appeal to some, may be the only thing that appeals to others.
  • @cstokes4, what is great about snuff is the variety. Something for everyone. I'm a fan of menthols, florals, SPs and traditional blends. I don't like food/drink snuffs, which is what Toque snuff is very good at. What gets me is that a traditional tobacco company with centuries of experience and success gets occasionally beaten up on this forum, when they themselves have their own fanbase who haven't felt chemically poisoned. Long may all snuff companies continue, and each to their own.
  • sandy, I understand what you are saying. I feel somewhat the same about coffee, although I don't mind just a bit of cream added.

    That being said, I love Toque, but haven't tried any of the GH yet, as I am still a noob, and a noob on a budget at that!
  • apap Member
    I really like GH Kendal Brown.
  • I myself do not have any G&H on my wish list. I know I haven't been steered wrong from this site because the snuffs I do have are fantastic. I don't feel a need to try every snuff on the planet so I may never know first hand but only vicariously what G&H snuffs are like.
  • Well, maybe I just have not gotten ones that are to my taste yet.
  • XanderXander Member
    edited August 2009 PM
    I just had a snuff of Sea Breezes before I read this thread. I like it the best among the ones I have tried.

    One complaint I have is the stupid, stupid, stupid boxes they put them in. The design lends itself to back of hand snuffing, but being rather fine grind English style snuffs, they have no business being snuffed anyway but a pinch. I think this is why they get a reputation for sneezy-burning effects. I was getting frustrated with them until I dumped a load of English Rose in my snuffbox. I pinched it all day long and was very happy. I hope folks try them via pinch that have not, and give them a second chance.

    I think the English Rose, Sea Breezes and Fleurette are excellent. Dry Orange is very good: more of an orange zest flavor. The SP is underrated. I find it comparable to J&H Wilson. Kendal Brown is ok. Jasmin though is awful and artificial tasting. So they win 6 out of 7 with me so far. I'm curious about the Eucualyptus as I hear it has no menthol. The rest will have to wait, especially the menthols. But I can't be expected to like every flavor.
  • Yes, I think they could help matters by designing a new tin, like Wilsons or Toque. I tend to decant them into old Wilsons tins I have accumulated.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    Well.... Just to be fair, in a few weeks (once I'm back from vacation) I will order some that Nicotine Rush has, and I've placed 10 flavors into my cart at Snuff Store.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    edited August 2009 PM
    This is what is in my cart at Nic Rush and Snuff Store:

    Ambassador
    Irish D
    English Rose
    Cinnamon
    Carnation
    Tia Maria
    Western Glory
    Spartan
    Sea Breezes
    Lakeland
    CM
    Dry Orange
    Jasmin
    Kendal Brown
    Fluerette
    SP
    Strawberry
    Whiskey
    Wild Mint
    Kendal Brown Scented
    M4X
    Mitchell's
    Special Medicated
  • That's a big gamble for someone who's never tried the brand! I expect you'll enjoy most of them though.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    I consider every snuff a gamble. No matter how many reviews you read, it all boils down to your nose and your taste.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    Visit Kendal

    Here's a very interesting article on the Gawith companies.
  • I've only tried the Yellow Crest and the Top Mill SP. I enjoy them but only when I'm outside. I get a definite farm smell from them and it confuses me when I'm indoors too much to enjoy them. Weird, I know.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    The Yellow Crest and SP No. 1 High Mill are Samuel Gawith, not to be confused with Gawith Hoggarth.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    No worries, it can be confusing.
  • AbraxasAbraxas Member
    edited August 2009 PM
    About a year a go someone put together a group buy and we got the Top Mill and Irish HDT - they were very pleasant. There is however something about them that is simply lacking. I have heard them described as having a 'chemical' taste several times so maybe their flavouring method is to blame?

    EDIT: Ive just realised we are taling about Gawith Hoggarth!
  • Kendal Brown is the only GH snuff that I have tried to date and I like it a lot. In fact, I like far more than the F&T by the same name. Both are quality, I'm just not a big fan of floral snuff. GH's rendition is very solid (not really a natural snuff IMO but one where the added scents take a back seat to the tobacco and accentuate it).
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    So far I am rather impressed with GH snuffs. Mind you, I've only had 3: Whisky, Kendal Brown, and SP. All 3 are wonderful.
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