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Do we have a right to know what is in it?

YimesYimes Member
edited March 2010 in General
Let me start by saying, I am not a health nut and I do think Nasal Snuff is generally safe especially when compared to other forms of tobacco. It is also generally established that there are aside from tobacco chemicals and naturally occurring substances that cause or contribute to cancer and other disease. So my question is, as consumers of nasal snuff should we not want to know what we are putting in our nose.

I know tobacco is the main ingredient in most snuffs and flavors are added. But are some snuffs mixed with other things and if so, should we not ask what those things are? I have read there have been cases of snuff causing cancer when mixed with other substances.

I am not trying to call out manufactures but for example, my favorite Dholakia White: Is it pure tobacco? I would sure like to know what I am putting in my nose. There has also been a recent influx of Chinese snuffs on the US mail order sites. Maybe I am a little biased but in the US, China has had a tough road here with lead, chemicals, etc. in products being sold in the US.

To sum up, I would really like to see ingredients listed (Coke does it, even though the recipe is a secret). Some manufactures (Roderick) have stated that pure tobacco and natural (not chemical) flavors are the ingredients and that is acceptable to me. I am not looking for trade secrets, I just want to know if my tobacco is mixed with something other than tobacco. What do you think? Do we have a right as paying consumers to know what we are putting in our bodies?
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  • 100% natural tobacco with no additives and 100% natural flavourings. Simple!
  • Can't speak for anyone else.
  • Do you have a 'right' to know whats in it? I suppose thats covered by the law in the country where its made. Personally I couldn't care less - if its one I like I tend to trust it and with companies like Toque and WoS its safe to assume they know what they are doing.
  • Right does not necessarily equal law. I personally think if we are spending money to buy a product to consume, we, as consumers, have a right to know what is in it. Thank you Roderick, although I already knew that just from using your product! I agree that I am not concerned about Toque and WOS, some of the other companies, especially from places where standards are not as strict, are the ones I would be most curious about.
  • Dude, life's a risk. You kind of have to get over it - unless you're american than you can ask all the questions you want. In the meantime I don't want my snuff tins having ingredients labels like bottles of diet cokes.
  • Gotta agree with Jack on this one.
  • I like the way Jaap Bes does it. On his web site he lists whats in each of his snuffs so if you care you can go there and look. That also helps you decide if you would like a particular snuff.
  • I'm glad diet coke has to list its ingredients. Hence, I know that it contains aspartame. Knowing this, I choose not to put it in my body. (as if the taste wasn't enough to keep me away)
  • No disrespect, but we are adult tobacco users, just enjoy.

    I agree we have a moral right as consumers I just mean don't let it spoil your enjoyment.
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    There is a certain amount that is proprietary to the manufacturer.

    Even on things like Coca Cola it list things like "Natural and Artificial Flavoring" but that doesn't mean they have to tell you what that flavoring is.
  • Some of the stuff I’ve put in my body over the last 25 years makes snuff look like a candy bar, so I couldn't care less what’s in it. Thankfully it’s only snuff going in me now and, I’m happy about that! :)
  • Mr_OMr_O Member
    I also am rather a purist, as probably many of you are. I just hope to be avoiding ingesting much in the way of chemical additives in snuff, smoke, food and drink, but it's not always convenient to do so. And also agree that sometimes it's worth the risk if you really like something. Maybe I didn't make any new points here... O.K. I guess I have one legitimate question here, what about the menthol? I assume it is still naturally sourced from peppermint or cornmint. Or camphor, is it still natural camphor- or the cheap synthetic stuff used in some products these days?
  • Toque menthol is 100% natural menthol and, Ozona President can have what it likes in it :) I don't care if it is chemicals or not? (i guess not) i love it!
  • Watch the film on the Poschl site, it states that all the flavouring is natural 'ethereal oils'. I don't know the regs around snuff production, but I doubt there is anything untowards in any European or US snuffs.
  • Why don't we know what the laws are? I'm sure they are there.
  • I've got to say, I don't think it's unreasonable to want to know what you're putting in your body. I don't think yimes is being a ''killjoy'' in that wish. Besides, I'm sure that snuff manufacturers are all above board, just like Roderick and Jaap and have nothing to hide. Right?
  • bobbob Member
    I'd like to know what is in snuffs. I'am happy as is however. Though the more you know about what you put in your body the better. I'am somewhat of a health nut and definatly limit my intact of lots of things. I would definatly disappointing to find out that certain things I avoid in foods are in snuff. Though in foods I worry about natural flavors more then artifical flavors (they can actualy put worse things in food under natural flavors then they can with artifical flavors.)
  • cheapish cigars have a label on the side saying
    these cigars are predominantly natural tobacco with non tobacco ingredients added

    whats in those ?
  • BartBart Member
    ground up folks
  • ... and Chinese newspapers and apple cores.
  • and snakes and snails and puppy dog tails.
  • Brb, have to make a soylant green sandwich.
  • honestly, what all could they really put in snuff? fake menthol? preservatives? aspartimine? splenda? red #44?
  • Oh boy...now I'm looking up anatto for a nice red-orange snuff.
  • I figure as long as its all natural stuff, I don't really care. If something like aspartame or whatever starts to get put in it, then I'd like to know.
  • it might be prudent to list ingredients, at least on websites.

    On the tub could be helpful should you ever find yourself in an unpleasant misunderstanding with law enforcement (yes I got thoroughy blasted in another thread for even thinking about this)

    and the manufacturers might be safer too (the first time somebody takes snuff in their nose and has an allergic reaction to something in it we might all be done for right there, and I personally would not want to use snuff that has some certain food coloring or some other silliness in it)

    I think we've got a bunch of pretty honest manufacturers right now, but I'm just not one to want to trust everything to 'the goodness of others" (I've never been broken into and robbed yet I always lock my door etc)

    Yes, America is the land of people suing other people for their coffee being too hot etc (wonder when somebody's gonna drive off the road while sniffing and then we'll have "danger may cause sneezing") and if we've already got to carry a label damning us all to cancer and other health risks, actually displaying the ingredients I think might kind of make a nice counter remark showing how silly the warning labels are
  • I really don't give a darn, it helped me give up smoking (going on a month). That's good enough for me.
  • @ Yimes, NUTZ...........................
  • @# whistlrr I think that might actually tickle me to see on a tin of snuff "danger may cause sneezing". lol
  • @ibild, Really great addition to the discussion. At least Saucy_jack formed a sentence.

    For those of you who do not care what you put in your body, good for you. I personally have responsibilities to my family and employees that make me care. This is why I switched to Nasal Snuff from American Dip. I suspect there are others that have made the same switch because they do care.

    By the way, I am not obsessed by this, I have switched to 100% nasal snuff and I do not plan to stop anytime soon.
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