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is tom buck the same as queens extra strong?

distainddistaind Member
edited August 2012 in Types of Snuff
Are they? I love Tom Buck and was going to place queens extra in my next order but just wanted to ask the veterans around here first if should even bother.

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  • I think so, if not VERY close.
  • So the "extra" must mean extra tom buck :)
  • I order Tom Buck Extra and received Tom Buck, I tried Queens Extra Strong and Tom Buck side by side and couldn't find enough of a difference to order one over the other, I like the Tom Buck name better so I will get it if and when I reorder :-)
  • bobbob Member
    They are diffrent only by what label they put on it. The thing we're not thinking about geography. One is for one market the other if for another market. If I remember correctily.
  • Is there even a Tom Buck extra? I tried to find it a while back but anything that said Tom Buck had this description "Tom Buck (extra)" but never had the word extra on any tin I received
  • XanderXander Member
    edited August 2012 PM
    There is no such thing as "Tom Buck Extra"
    There is no such thing as "Tom Buck Extra!"
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOM BUCK EXTRA!!!!! :-t

    Now write it a hundred times.

    Wilson's has a subtitle for Tom Buck that you sometimes see: "Extra Strong SP"
    The only place you see Tom Buck Extra is a misprint. We've asked for it to be corrected. More than once.

    Yes Queen's Extra Strong is the exact same thing as Tom Buck.
    Write that 1000 times.
  • I didn't know that when I made my first order of snuff over a year ago. I ended up with 20g of a really good SP instead of 10. I now just order Tom Buck but I can't figure out why I'm partial to that name and others seem to be too. Probably just because it's shorter.
  • I don't know who I am quoting but I found this in a thread here.


    "Apparently why TB/QES has two names is that it's a north/south English divide. They marketed macho sounding Tom Buck up north where there were a lot of mines and industrial areas, and went with the more dainty sounding Queen's Extra Strong down south where there were less macho industries. That's apparently how the tale goes maybe somebody could back me up one way or the other?"
  • That would be me I think Jux :-).

    Stefan
  • There is no such thing as "Tom Buck Extra"
    There is no such thing as "Tom Buck Extra!"
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOM BUCK EXTRA!!!!! :-t

    Now write it a hundred times.

    Wilson's has a subtitle for Tom Buck that you sometimes see: "Extra Strong SP"
    The only place you see Tom Buck Extra is a misprint. We've asked for it to be corrected. More than once.

    Yes Queen's Extra Strong is the exact same thing as Tom Buck.
    Write that 1000 times.
    Tom Buck.....EXTRA :-)
  • Buy both and decide for yourself .
    I purchased the Queen's extra only because it was on page 2

    You can never have enough Snuff!!!
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  • but I can't figure out why I'm partial to that name and others seem to be too. Probably just because it's shorter.
    or because Tom Buck is a manly name and Queens is well...less so...
  • Tom Buck for manly Northern men, Queens extra for soft Southern bed-wetters. That works for me.
  • bigmickbigmick Member
    edited August 2012 PM
    Heck I put Queens in a Tom Buck tin just so I look more manly. lol Don't hold it against me. Tom Buck was out of stock last time I ordered.
  • JustinJustin Moderator
    @Snuffster - I live in Brighton, so of course I order Queen's Extra Strong...
    "Reality," sa molesworth 2, "is so unspeakably sordid it make me shudder."
  • They are the same snuff under two different labels.
  • edited April 2014 PM
    I can settle this ... Best SP

    though I think that's Tom Buck Extra also??????!!!!!!
  • same snuff. There are several duplicates in the Wilsons' line though I forget which now.
  • IvanIvan Member
    @MrSnuff don't leave us hanging... ;) I'm sure the fine people of Snuffhouse would love to know which of Wilson's are duplicates. But maybe I'm the only "nosy" one here (please to excuse the bad pun).
  • I think TB and QES are the only exact duplicates in the WoS line, but there are several snuffs with only slight variations, especially in the SP range: SP Silver is Best SP but a finer grind, Gold Label is Best SP but with Virginia tobacco, SP 100, SP 2 and SS are all related but slightly different.
    There are quite a few clones of various WoS snuffs among their contract brands: Frederick Tranter, Mullins & Westly, Dean Swift, etc.

    Samuel Gawith on the other hand has quite a few snuffs under their own label that are different in name only.
  • @Xander, which of the Samuel Gawiths are duplicates? Can you tell us please?
  • Off the top of my head: Auld Sannick=Wild Duck, London Brown=Black Rappee, Ma's Ruin=Gin & Tonic. I believe there are several more as well, but I don't have notes on most of them.
  • Silky Dark - Viking Dark

    photo by @snuffmeister

  • That'll probably be batch variations, buddy. WoS themselves have confirmed several times that Tom Buck was the name that they sold QES as to the Americas. For some reason, Americans in the late 18th and early 19th century, didn't take kindly to stuff affiliated with our monarchy ... :-\"

    Both names stuck, as for some reason others in various parts of the world also didn't like stuff affiliated with our monarchy either ... and as time progressed both names got used worldwide. Best SP was originally also known as Queens - so there was Queens (Best SP) and Queens Extra Strong (Tom Buck)
  • n9inchnailsn9inchnails Moderator
    edited October 20 PM
    What I was told was that QES was made for the dandy Londoners whereas the manly northerners bought Tom Buck because they wouldn' t be caught dead with some sissy Queen snuff.
  • Interesting..... That's a version I hadn't heard before. I'll try to do some digging and see in I can find out who Tom Buck was really aimed at ...
  • I figured it was from different batches
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