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air cured rustica wanted

anyone know if/where i can get any air-cured rustica?
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  • I havent seen any specifically air cured , i am looking to buy some off http://www.salvialight.com/nicotiana-rustica.htm , after the new year

  • Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it's way into cheap snus and shisha. It's a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants... IMHO
  • Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it's way into cheap snus and shisha. It's a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants... IMHO
    ah really, thanks for letting me know. what is a strong tobacco next after rustica?

  • I don't mean to discourage the use of Rustica which has huge potential, especially for snuff. Its strength makes alkalizers unnecessary and the MAOI's hold promising self medication secrets.
    Burley tobacco is strong and much easier to work with and also easier to source. Look up whole leaf tobacco. Amazon.com even has a guy that sells some.
  • thanks Juxtaposer... i will look into getting some Burley :-)
  • SirSnuffSirSnuff Member
    edited December 2012 PM
    It is a serious plant and needs to be treated with such , it is a nightshade after all. I ONLY us it in blends never on its own, its not to tasty.
  • I like to use the Mapacho (Salvialight) Rustica for snuff, nice looking leaf all rolled up. The cure is real nice and it has a good flavor, only bad thing is a pronounced drip from all Rustica. I miss the Thuc Lao, that is real interesting stuff.
  • Whalen- In case you weren't aware, there are still places to get Thuoc Lao. But the prices aren't as good as Toque's was. Also one place has the traditional bamboo water pipe used with it. If you're interested I can try to find the business.
  • We are always on the look out for novel tobaccos but, the big importers want such large orders that we'd never be able to sell it all. I have a back order on Rustica that is now 2 years old. This is because I want a small amount tacked on to a bigger order.
    Friends are the best source and I always ask if they see anything unusual to buy it and ship me 10-20 kilos and I'll pay them back and pay the duty when it arrives.
  • The other thing to think about is our Quit. It is a stemless natural high nicotine snuff that a lot of amateur snuff makers/blenders use as their base flour.
  • I think I will use Quit for some experiments. The Thuoc Lao I want to try smoking though.
  • I can second that - Quit is in most of my personal, home use blends. I don't know why but I have drifted into never using my bought snuffs straight up, I always blend. At the minute it's Navy Sweet with Quit and a couple of WoS snuffs; SP and Sherry. Quit gives it a nice kick.
  • If anybody wants air-cured rustica please PM me.I
  • The other thing to think about is our Quit. It is a stemless natural high nicotine snuff that a lot of amateur snuff makers/blenders use as their base flour.
    hi Roderick, is it air-cured? and low in TSNAs?

  • RoderickRoderick Member
    edited December 2012 PM
    Most of our tobacco is a cross between air and fire, officially it's fire cured but, these are electric fires so hot air not smoke.

    Total TSNA's is an amazing 2.98 ppm. You can get higher TSNA's in ketchup! Average Snus is 3.35 ppm. Average cigarette 515.00 ppm
  • thanks Roderick! how do you go about testing for TSNA levels then?
  • Very expensive independent labs do it for you. Can you imagine what the cigarette companies would say if they did it themselves?
  • ok hehe
  • smokinjoescbrsmokinjoescbr Member
    edited January 2013 PM
    Rustica has been known as poor mans tobacco. It is harsh and has excessive unwanted alkaloids. It is almost always inexpensively air cured. It has found it's way into cheap snus and shisha. It's a novelty really as its historical use by shamans has attracted the attention of quite a few. Care should be taken with its use due to the MAOI levels which can cause panic attacks as well as effect those taking prescription antidepressants... IMHO
    Should all of this be in quotes, I've read all of this on other sites and information resources, lots of anecdotal evidence.

    I would say if you can find a source have at it :)
  • JuxtaposerJuxtaposer Member
    edited January 2013 PM
    I just googled what you quoted me saying and got this as the next result down from the quote of your quote of what I said.

    ftp://inethub.olvi.net.ua/Library/share/Agriculture/Cultures/Tobacco in History and Culture/Tobacco in History and Culture - Vol.2 Native Americans Zimbabwe.pdf

    @smokinjoescbr I think "poor mans tobacco" should be in quotes now that you mention it. This quote really applies to the use of Rustica as smoking tobacco but it does infer to the ease of which this type grows and the prolific nature of its seeding. By the way I personally have had panic attacks as a result of a pure Rustica snuff. Anecdotal evidence? Yes, I agree.
  • Wow! that article is a wealth of information, I'll have to take some time and browse through it tonight. Panic attacks from pure rustica...... I will have to be careful when I get a chance to sample some.
  • Certainly worth sampling. Those who are sensitive or have a predisposition for panic attacks would be most at risk. Those taking prescription MAOI's would be advised to avoid. Those taking Abraxis are already exposed, albeit Nigel says he does not use alkalizers so the harmine and harmaline absorption levels aren't going to be as wicked. Anyone not having such sensitivity is sure to enjoy the alkaloids in Rustica.
  • Thanks for that link Juxtaposer! Amazing read!
  • PotPoePotPoe Member
    edited September 2013 PM
    @lunecat , i bought very similar/identical from bouncingbearbotanicals.com, i think it may be a sister site. It is not aircured, i would say its a plug style- very moist, dense, and cured/fermented. I have been chopping it and rolling it, quite satisfying. My log was around $20 including shipping, and was quite a large chunk of heady goodness
    I was wondering if anyone knew, is Rustica hindered by the same laws as regular tobacco? Being a slightly different plant, i was curious.
  • We have lots of Rustica if anyone wants to buy some. Just email me and I'll send it out.
  • I grew three small plants ,started way too late .I don't think it has time to flower.I think I mix it with klip dagga and Catnip buds for synergy.
    My knowledge is worthless if not shared and applied . "Joseph McKenna"  
  • We have lots of Rustica if anyone wants to buy some. Just email me and I'll send it out.
    Hi Roderick, have you thought of making a snuff that was all Rustica?
  • RoderickRoderick Member
    edited September 2013 PM
    Tboyer, Not a bad idea. I could do it as our next Limited Edition. I think it would need flavouring as pure rustica would be a bit too powerful.
  • ^ I think it would blend well with orange or vanilla. A lot of other things might contrast with that robust rustica scent.
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