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Abraxas, my thoughts and comments

Hi everyone!

First of all, I'll mention that these are my personal findings, your mileage may vary...
I recently started snuffing, at the start of September, so I'm not the most experienced Snuffer, but I have some comments that might prove useful, and since Abraxas is one of the few snuff companies active on these forums, my time spent writing this will probably be rewarded, if not it would not have been wasted.
As mentioned I have to give credit where it is due for @Abraxas presence on the boards! Also, the quality and scents of your Snuffs are truly High Class, and I appreciate that. :)

I received 4 Abraxas creations today, and couldn't be more pleased...Or could I?
Let me give you my comments on these 4 different Snuffs. Also, do not worry, most of this is very positive hehe

First Off! Café Onze. Masterpiece!
Pretty much all I have to say. Coffee, vanilla, chocolate...just exquisite! Nothing more to add, do NOT change the recipe! hehe

Firedrac. Now, this one scared me at first...I was surprised how smooth it is, and how nice it is. It's like a slight Icy/Hot for the nose. It's taste/scent though is hard to grasp, I find it feels like a toast but I can't pinpoint any particular scent to it, slight pepperish and really mild tobacco and mint in the back. Very good! Very surprised by this one...I thought the burn would kill me, but it's actually very pleasant, accompanied by the very subtle mint.

Premium Batch Coarse. I think I made a mistake with this one. I should of ordered the fine version. The scent is lovely, slight bourbon with slight fruits and a balanced tobacco scent.
I love it, but I'm worried as it's really moist and really coarse (mold). TBH I got the coarse because I was under the impression it would be dry if I got the fine grind. I'm sure I won't have any difficulty going through the 15g I have though :P (I guess that's why you made the fine grind version)

Last but not least, St-Casura. I have some kind of love/hate relationship with this one.... doesn't make much sense to you yet. Let me explain. I love St-Casura. The nose feel is perfect, not too dry not too fine. The scent is where I have a problem. It's amazing at first, but if I don't redose soon, I find the scent quickly turns to somekind of acrid smell, not too pleasant. But then again, that's probably just me...

Hope you keep releasing amazing snuffs like these! They are definitely in a class apart. They have a "noble" feeling, they make me feel like a King hehe

Looking forward to your opinions guys, and I hope you are not too obfuscated by my comments @Abraxas
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  • Last but not least, St-Casura. I have some kind of love/hate relationship with this one.... doesn't make much sense to you yet. Let me explain. I love St-Casura. The nose feel is perfect, not too dry not too fine. The scent is where I have a problem. It's amazing at first, but if I don't redose soon, I find the scent quickly turns to somekind of acrid smell, not too pleasant. But then again, that's probably just me...
    St-Casura does have rustica in it. I wouldn't exactly say that rustica is "acrid", but it does have a distinct flavor that not everyone likes.

  • I havent tried an abraxas snuff I haven't loved. Some more than others but I don't have a single bad word to write about any of them. Araxas has stepped out of this forum but does make an appearance every so often to tell us about a new snuff. I'm still waiting for my St.casura to arrive in the mail. This one I'm most excites to try.
  • Agree with @distaind
    Snuff as it should be.
    Sir Walters included.
  • I like St-Casura...that's what I have in my nose and my Snuffbox...but it's morish...snuff after snuff after snuff lol...good thing they sell it in bigger containers than their other snuffs...
  • AbraxasAbraxas Member
    edited December 2013 PM
    @SunnyHours - Thanks for taking the time to write this piece, critique - good, bad or indifferent - is extremely helpful and always welcome and I'm not obfuscated by your comments in the least, I'm very grateful for them.

    I'm delighted that you like the Cafe 11, this one took a long while to perfect and it's my personal favourite now.

    Regarding your remarks on the PBS coarse; this should stay completely free of mould if you keep it tightly sealed in the original container and just decant what you need. The fin version is the same snuff, by the way, just milled to a finer grade with a slightly drier consistency. People tend to find it easier to take.

    I seem to have created quite a strange snuff in FireDrac because people experience it in such widely differing ways. I guess it's down to each individual's tolerance of spice.

    I take your comments about St Casura on board - rustica can be an acquired taste and you may find that you like it more as time goes on. It's very common to have a completely different feeling about a snuff if you leave it and go back to it and sometimes you reverse your opinion completely.

    Btw, I log on most days because I still get mail and I always aim to respond to any Abraxas threads/questions within a day or two. My sincere thanks for all the feedback, public or private. I'm also on abraxas@abraxassc.com.

    Best wishes,

    Nigel.
  • I think many here, particularly those that have been here since before i joined in january (and certainly Nigel himself haha) know my love of firedrac. it truly is a favourite, a snuff i would never like to be without. i take big pinches. bulk seems a little different, and its scent seems to change based on the seasons and moisture.
  • Before Abraxas was a snuff blender, he was a snuff user . He had the vision and talent to step up to become a snuff god ^:)^ All hail Abraxas! may he keep blessing us with these supreme creations.
    My knowledge is worthless if not shared and applied . "Joseph McKenna"  
  • fredhfredh Member
    edited December 2013 PM
    I agree with @basement_shaman. Nigel is a snuff wizard. The complexity and range of "flavors" in his snuffs are fantastic. He is sitting comfortably at the pinnacle, the apex of the snuff world. This guy doesn't just make snuff. He makes classics--masterpieces. Abraxas is far and way my favorite brand. His only real competition for quality is Johnny Scott, although Toque is right up there as well.
  • Just got a jar of St Casura in the post today, looking forward to trying it. Not had an Abraxas snuff yet I haven't liked, I cannot get enough of the Cafe 11, a jar never lasts long enough! Dragun has also been a staple in my snuff diet for a long time.
  • When I read threads like this it does sadden me that I cannot (so far) take the same enjoyment from these premium snuffs as so many members on this forum do. Of all the snuffs that SWS and Abraxas create, I have only so far found Field of Junipers to be a snuff I can use - which is an absolutely fantastic snuff which I hope is around for many years to come. As I have mentioned before, I either find the other snuffs too fine for me to take or to have an offensive drip which stops me using them.

    Despite the fact I cannot appreciate these snuffs, I still applaud their efforts to create these artisan snuffs and wish both Johnny and Nigel all the best for the years ahead. I hope that as time goes by they will produce many more snuffs, and that in time there will be snuffs created that I too can partake in and enjoy.
  • I just received my tub of St Casura this afternoon. What a wonderful, complex deeply satisfying snuff this is. In my opinion, its so distinct that it defies categorization. The caseing is just amazing, the rustica makes my nose run a little, and the effect overall is a snuff that needs to be appreciated alone, uninterrupted. I dumped a tiny amount in an empty tin and got my tractor to plow snow....the scent was so interesting that my mind was wandering in the frigid air, and I realized that I need to finish my work, relax on the sofa, then with a cup of coffee or tea, enjoy it for the treat it surely is. This is my first Abraxas, and now I know why it is so highly esteemed by others on tis site. My praise goes out to you Nigel. You are an artist.
  • AbraxasAbraxas Member
    edited December 2013 PM
    The support I have had from the Snuffhouse community since I started Abraxas has been incredible and, once again, my sincere thanks for all of the feedback and comments. Whenever I formulate a snuff I have this group in mind; the most knowledgable anywhere and praise from you is high praise indeed. I also know that what I do is not for everyone - that's life and if you have tried an Abraxas snuff and not liked it I hope that one day I release something that you can enjoy; otherwise - all respect to you and thanks for trying my snuff. Keeping the core group in production in a one man business takes up most of my available snuff time, but I do intend to widen the range in 2014 and maybe even win some converts;)

    All the best,

    Nigel.


  • @Abraxas, I don't know if you've discussed this before or if you feel like sharing the story, but I'd be fascinated to hear how you got into snuff making. Trial and error? No-one was making the snuffs you wanted so you decided to make them yourself? A ten-year apprenticeship in some monastery in the lost city of Atlantis?

    I've really enjoyed every snuff of yours that I've tried, with the sole exception of Cevise, which I just couldn't get. To be honest, none of the Abraxas range is a snuff that I use every day, all day, except occasionally Dragun, I usually save the others up for late in the evening, when I'm relaxing and dedicating my attention to snuff. Dragun, Cafe 11 and the Premium Club Fine are three of my all time favourite snuffs.
  • AbraxasAbraxas Member
    edited December 2013 PM
    In a nutshell; I had been making the forerunner of Premium Batch for years but just for myself and the odd snuff taking friend. The recipe changed and developed over the years and to cut a long story short I ended up sharing one of the many variants of that recipe with various people, then Dave Anderson ended up trying some and suggested I make a small batch for him to sell. At that point it was still very unrefined and made with whatever was to hand so I smoothed out the recipe and started producing it regularly. It all stemmed from that really. By chance I retired from my day job shortly after that first batch went on sale, so I ended up with time to develop more snuffs and after lots of trial and error (quite a lot of errors actually) I found myself in the snuff business. Anyone that loves snuff could do it - at the end of the day you just experiment until you have a product you think other people would like. If you have tried lots of snuff you have a kind of template in your mind, the rest is just refining and developing. There's hardly any reference material about the process of making snuff - just scattered and fragmentary sources, most of them ancient and incomplete - but it's as doable as anything else with determination.

    Glad you like the snuff!
  • I wish I have some of Abraxas, but no one imports them to Poland.
  • I wish I have some of Abraxas, but no one imports them to Poland.
    I believe the sole outlet for these is MrSnuff. I have found one other supplier for SWS, but none for Abraxas
  • I may be mistake @Firestarter0 but I believe Mr Snuff and Snuff Store have same ownership and can essentially be considered the same place. So...... no porkies....
  • n9inchnailsn9inchnails Moderator
    edited December 2013 PM
    ^ snuffstore.uk is owned by mr.snuff, snuffstore.de is not. I know it gets confusing with all these different snuffstores
  • Speaking of Dragun.....when is Mr. Snuff getting more? I have been doing my usual cart refining but it still seems so empty without a tin of Dragun ready to be ordered.
  • Sometimes snuff shops sell snuff to each other, especially when one gets an "exclusive" it eventually usually gets shared.
  • AbraxasAbraxas Member
    edited December 2013 PM
    At the moment I only directly supply Mr Snuff so any Abraxas on sale anywhere else has been bought, retailer to retailer, from them; as Xander points out, it's common practice. There may be a couple more outlets next year but it will only be small amounts as supplying Mr Snuff takes me to more or less the limit of what I can comfortably make.

    Dragun will be back on sale in the new year btw.


  • I have only tried St Casura and I like it very much. When my personal finances improve, I will be trying more. Until then, I will be savoring my St Cas. I could tell from the first pinch that this is a very carefully made snuff. While an SP type, it is much more complex in the nose than any other I have tried.
  • I must say, it took me some time to warm up to St Casura, but now I think it's great. Sometimes I don't think I have a very good nose for identifying specific scents, I really don't get the rose that people talk about. Citrus, maybe. Obviously it has something, but if I hadn't read other people's reviews, I never would have said citrus or rose. What I really get is the rustica. In fact, I never really appreciated rustica before, but St Casura taught me to like it. Now I look forward to going back to my Toque Rustica Fine, perhaps mixed with Quit.
  • @Abraxas How would you classify your Dragun snuff? Could it be considered a white or is that mainly an Indian snuff description? It's absolutely fantastic, more so because I'm getting better at taking it. Also a real big fan of the Cafe 11 and the Connoisseur Cerise, which actually puts you at a 100% success rate for this consumer.
  • @AgentMatt - I would classify it as a flavoured toast. I think that the designation 'white' evolved on Snuffhouse after Dholakia introduced their white snuff and it now generally means a hyper-fine and dry Indian type. I'm delighted that you like '11' and CC!
  • I think that the designation 'white' evolved on Snuffhouse after Dholakia introduced their white snuff and it now generally means a hyper-fine and dry Indian type.
    Well, you might be right, but I think it does refer to a generic snuff type that predates Dholakia White. Most of the snuff that I saw people take in Tibet was a "white" snuff, the same kind of very pale tan with the same fine grind and slightly acrid flavor that you get with DE, WE, and Cheeta. Dholakia Sparrow is also very dry and pretty close to "hyper" fine, but I don't think anyone would refer to that as a "white" Indian. I always assumed that apart from the grind and dryness, there must be a distinct type of tobacco or a distinct treatment of a type of tobacco that is common to all of them. I had a theory that it might have been the same kind of tobacco used in Indian bidis, the potent little utra-mini cigars Indians use. But @6Photo poo-pooed that, so I dunno.

  • I meant I had only heard the term on this forum, not that white snuff was invented by Dholakia. The type itself is traditional but whether it's known as 'white' by the local users I don't know. I think maybe that the way Indian producers go about curing their tobacco gives it a distinctive taste but I would defer to Vikas Grover (6 photo) on that, I'm no expert. Cheers, Nigel.
  • @Abraxas, ah, you are probably right about the terminology. Of course, as is often the case when the word "white" is used, whether for tobacco or human beings, it's really pretty inaccurate. The tobacco is pale brown and the human beings are usually parboiled pink.
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