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What is your favorite rappee snuff ?

Which Rappee is your favorite ?

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  • I'll be interested to see peoples thoughts on this because although the only coarse snuff I have tried is F&T Princes Special I would love to get recommendations on more coarse snuff to try.
  • SammyD13SammyD13 Member
    SG Black Rappee and SWS Aged Border Rappee have excellent tobacco flavor. If you want something scented, I'd recommend Fribourg and Treyer's Santo Domingo. I wouldn't call any of these course but medium-coarse in grind.
  • eblipeblip Member
    Ah yes, I have some black rappee, which i liked at first but then went off, now i seem to be liking it again as its very persistent.. Its a little heavy, and tends to drop out more and gives a bit more back drip than my other rapees...but im coming back round to liking it a lot the SG Black Rappee...
    By the way, the tub i have they actually spelt it Black Rapee....SG made a spelling mistake with its label.
  • Best Dark, Kendal Brown, Viking Dark, Ambrosia, Thors Hammer, Brunswick, Santa Domingo, London Brown, Toque Coarse Plain....
  • SammyD13SammyD13 Member
    edited July 8 PM
    My understanding is that a black rappee has undergone multiple fermentations and has been brined. Maybe one of the "old timers" could chime in here?
  • eblipeblip Member
    Princes, and WoS best dark...not sure if that is a black rappee....the princes is real nice..
  • rostanfrostanf Member
    edited July 8 PM
    @SammyD13 I don't think there is a hard and fast definition for Rappee anymore. This from Meriam Webster
    Definition of rappee
    : a pungent snuff made from dark tobacco leaves

    Furthermore, I think it is traditionally a coarse ground snuff as it was ground coarsely with a rasp that could be carried with you. The name comes from the french word rape (sound like rapay, wont let me put a mark over the e) which translates to grated.

  • rostanfrostanf Member
    edited July 8 PM
    @Roderick there's a recipe in my next post. Double dare you.
  • rostanfrostanf Member
    @sammyd13 here is an image exerpt from 1899 describing a rappee as well.
    Capture+_2019-07-08-18-34-25
  • ar47ar47 Member
    @rostanf thank you for the article, and also for clearing up the pronunciation. I was saying something different in my head and just really never got into that :D
  • volungevolunge Member
    edited July 8 PM
    @rostanf, thanks for the excerpt, very interesting genuine formula with calamus root an bay leaves there! 

    As someone noticed it before, it seems that SWS Roslein was inspired by Violet Strasburg. So, one more rappee :)

    Ah, by the way, Hollandse Bolongaro was categorised as rappee in one old encyclopedia, too. My fave! I'm slowly gathering all the necessary ingredients for a repro run.

    HB and French rappees were not black and did not contain fire cured tobaccos. Judging from the amounts of sodium carbonate in French rappees' recipes (app. 7%, if I remember it right), French rappees were very strong snuffs (sauced with Burgundy and Medoc). Those recipes are very basic and could be reproduced easily. Sourcing proper leaves for authentic tobacco bill could be a pain, though...
  • rostanfrostanf Member
    @ar47 you're welcome. I tried to spell it with the punctuation over the e and lost half my comment earlier.
  • SammyD13SammyD13 Member
    @rostanf excellent citation! Very informative.
  • eblipeblip Member
    Wow what an article @rostanf, Off the top of my head, i believe syrup of the red poppy is OPIUM...
    and the aromatic sulphuric acid ....WHAT ?
    those guys were getting a proper hit from their rappee... i think you said its pronounced like toupee
  • rostanfrostanf Member
    @eblip thank you. Yes poppy syrup has opium in it but it was somewhat of a decoction. Here's a recipe from Moxon 1764 decribing its preperation

    "Take two pounds of poppy flowers, two ounces of raisins, shred them, and to every pound of poppies put a quart of boiling water, half an ounce of sliced liquorice, and a quarter of an ounce of anniseeds; let these stand twelve hours to infuse, then strain off the liquor, and put it upon the same quantity of poppies, raisins, liquorice, and anniseeds as before, and let this stand twelve hours to infuse, which must be in a pitcher, set within a pot or pan of hot water; then strain it, and take the weight in sugar, and boil it to a syrrup: when it is cold, bottle it."

    As the active componds in poppies are easily lost through heat it is the second soaking that would instill the "medicinal" effects.

    Here is a link that has an audio clip of the pronunciation of rape. Cheers.
    https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/râpé#French
  • rostanfrostanf Member
    @eblip a little further investigation revealed this concerning syrup of red poppy. It is made from papaver rhoeas, a much safer brother to the opium poppy.

    Botanical name:
    Papaver rhoeas

    Related entry: Rhoeados Petala.?Red-Poppy Petals

    Preparation.?"Take of fresh red poppy petals, 13 ounces (av.); refined sugar, 2 ? pounds (av.); distilled water, 1 pint (Imp.), or a sufficiency; rectified spirit, 2 ? fluid ounces. Add the petals gradually to the water heated in a water-bath, stirring frequently, and afterward, the vessel being removed, infuse for 12 hours. Then press out the liquor, strain, add the sugar, and dissolve by means of heat. When nearly cold add the spirit, and as much distilled water as may be necessary to make up for loss in the process, so that the product shall weigh 3 pounds 10 ounces (av.). Its specific gravity should be about 1.330"?(Br. Pharm., 1885).

    The directions in the British Pharmacopoeia (1898) practically agree with these. This syrup is prone to ferment, but this is retarded by the addition of the alcohol. It has a handsome red color.

    Action, Medical Uses, and Dosage.?The proportion of opium present in this syrup is very uncertain, consequently but little reliance is placed upon it as an opiate. It is chiefly used as a coloring agent for mixtures. The dose is about 1 fluid drachm
  • SammyD13SammyD13 Member
    edited July 9 PM
    @rostanf what are your sources? These snippets are quite intriguing.
  • SammyD13SammyD13 Member
    edited July 9 PM
    @rostanf thanks! You're a Snuffhouse Archivist Emeritus! 
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