6 Photo Krishan Sudama Snuff

volunge

A new snuff from Six Photo!

https://snuffstore.co.uk/krishan-sudama-40g-p-2513.html

"A Sihor type plain snuff of strong Gujrati tobacco, topped with a dash of menthol. Excellent for sniffing."

It was available at Mr. Snuff for a short period of time some months ago, too.

Launched in the very end of 2017.

Has anyone tried this already?

Pikey

No , but I probably will have by tomorrow :D Thanks for the heads up .

I also managed to get some of the restocked Fire and Ice and Begum Pathani snuff , which I have been lusting over from the UK for a long while :) My only active desire now is the 6 photo MN Madras snuff .

Pikey

So, Krishan Sudama .

For a start , it came supplied in a 50g box as opposed to the 40g pot pictured . Inside the box was a little ziplock baggie filled with the snuff . 

For a scented Indian snuff it is quite subtle . You get a real feel of the tobacco , a bit of menthol and a touch of perfume . The tobacco is lighter than I expected .

I wouldn't say it was easy to snort though , not difficult but challenging enough to have to stop and think about taking it .I would have preferred a coarser mill . I dipped a bit and found the menthol more to the forefront in the mouth . I m not much of a dipper though so I couldn't say much further than flavour . It's too good to clean my teeth with , thats for sure :D .

I m a  fan of sixphoto so I tend to like their work . I ll see how long this pot takes to finish and get back to you all ;) 

volunge

Thanks for reviewing it, @Pikey!

Indeed, as stated on 6 Photo own website, this product is "excellent to use as dentifrice and sniffing alike."

It is defined as tapkir. According to Global Smokeless Tobacco Product Factsheets (Appendix B), "Tapkeer is a form of dry powdered snuff that may be used for teeth cleaning. [..] Mode of Absorption: oral (teeth cleaning, held in mouth), nasal. [..] In India, tapkeer is frequently prepared by individual users at home by roasting and then powdering the tobacco."

Now I'm quite intrigued by that roasting thing. So, is this snuff smoky/toasty? And is it the same fine grind as LA Natural, or a bit coarser, Medicated No 6.-like?

Pikey

Well I m not ready to call it a 'review' just yet :D I  don't feel I truly 'know' a tobacco unless it's by the pound(lb). and over the changing seasons .  

We should ask Vikas @sixphoto for the proper facts . I thought it was a slightly finer mill than LA Natural ....or it might be the same grind presented a bit drier ? :D At first sniff I thought it was a Natural recipe variant , but according to the Snuffstore blurb , apparently not  .Some similar background scenting though., in my nose anyways 

I do get a bit of a Toast vibe out of the tobacco.

mrmanos

I like all 6 photo snuffs, but I have shit ton of their products, next time I order from MS, I will have to get a tin. I can't understand why anyone would brush their teeth with it. It must be a strictly Indian thing.

volunge

I enjoyed this snuff, it's pretty much Cheeta-like. Think unscented, just
a wee bit roasted Cheeta. Similar grind, similar nicotine. There's a
slight toastiness, but it's less pronounced than I expected. Like
regular Cheeta, this fine dry snuff is fortified with lime and triggers that "old smokers" morning cough.

I haven't detected any scent in Krishan Sudama - to my nose it's plain
(unscented) snuff, just as described. Now "the dash of menthol" is an
exaggeration, menthol is next to nothing here, just a hint of hint at
the most.

"Excellent for sniffing", I second that.

P. S. Just in case you are not aware, good old Cheeta is a tapkir, too. That's what the label says.

MRBROWNNOSE

Thanks for the review!

Have a tin of this Indian snuff on order and am looking forward to checking it out (along with the 6Photo sampler)

JDU44

Thanks for this thread folks; Cheeta is my daily snuff so I've just ordered 100g of the KS. Can't wait to give it a whirl.  

PrinceValium

I hate this stuff, for some reason instead of a dash of menthol I get a strong smell of a packet of mints

JDU44

OK, just got my order in. It's somewhere between Cheeta and Cheeta Gul in colour, grind seems identical to Cheeta. The KS is a touch more moist. 

I'm not sure if I got a more recent batch than @Volunge, but in mine the menthol is far more pronounced than a "hint of a hint". Maybe I'm just more sensitive to it? To me, KS has a distinctive initial peppermint scent, which combines nicely with a very faint general background musk. Very cool in the nose, but that all fades within a minute or two. The aftertaste is a lovely biscuity tobacco, just like Cheeta once you get through the incense. 

At first I wasn't sure about this one, but now I've had a few pinches it's really started to grow on me. As I said, Cheeta is my daily, and I feel KS will be ideal when I want to switch things up a bit. It's got all the hallmarks of a perfect 'morning loosener'. That musk I mentioned reminds me slightly of a second-hand bookshop. It's a little bit like (but not identical to) the very faint background scent that 6P Begum Green has.

I look forward to seeing what (if anything) changes as KS ages. Maybe if the peppermint recedes a bit, it'll reveal the toastiness that others have mentioned?

volunge

@JDU44 Did you receive it in a tin or in a carton box? Mine came in a carton. I think it was from the very first consignment. I ordered it at least a year after I noticed it at Mr.Snuff/Snuffstore. Yours might be fresh.

JDU44

@Volunge- I got mine in the same box that you have pictured. At first I thought the box art on mine was different, but then I looked closer at your image, and realised you'd carefully covered up the gruesomeness!

volunge

@JDU44, actually, I ordered that Krishan Sudama with an intent to show it to a krishnaist (or should I rather say - vaishnavist) acquaintance of mine and tell him about ISKCON founder's indulgence in nasal snuff (there's a thread about it somewhere in this forum), but I did not dare - that huge warning picture and ridiculously small size of the beautiful label made me change my mind.

I don't care about warning texts, never tear them off, but I find some warning pictures too disturbing.

JDU44

@Volunge- interesting stuff! I read that thread about ISKCON/Prabhupada. Could you do the same with a humble tin of Cheeta, or is the KS name a critical part of the discussion? I understand the traditional defense of Prabhupada's snuff-taking was that it was for medicinal reasons?

volunge

@JDU44, yes, it was that particular label, depicting the meeting of Krishna and Sudama, which gave me a thought of presenting this snuff to my acquaintance. I'm not considering the presentation of any other snuff, those folks are true abstainers, therefore I admit my idea was almost sacrilegious. And yes, medicinal reasons was the official version, though honestly, I would rather guess that His Divine Grace was simply digging the stuff and was hooked on it.

sixphoto

@volunge I can send some you some KS snuff boxes without those disgusting warning pictures.

It will be a gift.Please PM your postal address.

StillLearning

I got some of this on my last order. I've tried it a few times and it's steady growing on me. And yes I had to get rid of the box too. It's too much. I really wish there was a tined version of this snuff.

I get a good bit of the mint flavor mixed in with the funk. I think I'll keep going back to this one.

MRBROWNNOSE

I need to practice with these finer snuffs as KS shoots straight to the back of my throat with just the smallest inhale possible. This is a huge bag for the price and really want to like this one but need to get technique down first. Decanting is a must for KS as the bag is not good for long term storage.

mrmanos

I got a box of this a few months ago. It's fine, but very similar to the other white ultra fine types. I enjoy it every so often as it's easy to sniff and has lots of nicotine.

Nikolaos

Krishan Sudama has the worst smell i have ever came across! 

Reminiscence of the puke and old type toothpaste. 

Its just my personal opinion. Perhaps some persons will like that weird twist not me.

volunge

@Nikolaos, after longer indulgence in this tapkir I started getting an interesting, raw sulphur-akin note there, too. Here's an easy fix: add some powdered Latakia, Perique or fire cured Kentucky to make it your dream snuff. So easy to transform, such a wonderful result! That is, if you like smoky and pungent baccy.

I used SWS Latakia blend, 1:5 mixing ratio was more than enough! I bet 1:10 would work, too. Will try later this evening and report back.

Ah, and if you like mentholated snuff, you can add menthol into it (up to 5%; 5% would be Hedges-like). Or / and some drops of your favourite essential oil.

Nikolaos

@volunge First time in my small snuff life my stomach goes bad from a Snuff! 

I dont want to be not fair, i will give time to specific snuff. 

I dont give too much rate of improvement here. The toothpaste tone is not a big problem the rest is a nightmare.

Thank you for the solution i will give a try in the close future.   

tobaccobob

@Nikolaos you are not alone.I also found it repulsive in the beginning.Now I have put it away and wait for the time to improve it(maybe),otherwise what @volunge said is the best option...maybe some F&T Patchouli would make it perfect.

Nikolaos

@tobaccobob First time i make an effort to forget a scent.. spooky.. LOL

PrinceValium

It's fun to make small sand castles with because it's so clumpy but I'm afraid I have to throw this one out. It's too fine ground and far too disgusting.

Johano

OK, this is the worst snuff I had chance to try. First time I opened the tin and I quickly closed it again, as soon as the odour hit my nostrils. Reminded me of public toilet tbh.

After few weeks I actually gave it a go. The scent is really off putting, powder stick to fingers as if they were covered in oil - even tho I got clean dry hands. Never again, no no no. Not my cup of "tea".

mrmanos

I still have a 50 gram bag of this. Never really liked it much. Maybe I can mix it with something else. Or I may let my goats eat it. Goats love snuff! Don’t ask me why, but they just love it.

sixphoto

I have had enough . So  made  some alterations in the flavouring. A new batch  of KS  is on the way to mrsnuff. Hopefully this will get some positive vibes.

Huysmans

@sixphoto I'm feeling some positive vibes from this. It's moist, medium grind with a refreshing aroma - some mint at the beginning then a kind of perfumed fruitiness. My favourite label artwork would be nice to see more like that in the future. To my taste much nicer up the nose than as a dentrifice.

sixphoto

@Huysmans , it is good to hear some positive views on Krishan Sudama after all.!