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Frederick Tranter: no more

edited August 2013 in Types of Snuff
I just heard about 5 minutes ago that Frederick Tranter has been discontinued. We all knew it was Wilsons anyway, but still they had some interesting names for the various flavors. If any of you have a favorite let me know and I will give you the Wilsons equivalent.

Meanwhile, if you are a collector, better get them while you can. Here's a link if you are interested:  https://mrsnuff.com/store/frederick-tranter-c-100_156.html

Dave


Comments

  • My stomach just landed in my shoes.  I've been waiting for a restock of Cotswold for some time.  I only have a couple of pinches left and this is one of my favorite snuffs.  I'm not familiar with a Wilson's equivalent for Cotswold but I would love to be corrected.  This is the curse of being a tobacco enthusiast; when you find something you love, it is either impossible to find or discontinued.
  • Cotswold is the only one I've tried, but it's marvelous. Like Mr. Nose, I'd sure like to know if there's a WOS equivalent.
  • Has Tranters gone as well? They were very cute, kiosk like shops. There were a few decent snuffs that did not have a more or less common counterpart at Wilson's, the strong, pitch black latakia being one.
  • Sad news indeed. Will treasure what little I have left.
  • Curious - there's no mention of it on the Tranter's web site, though the toasts haven't been listed there for some time.
  • Curiouser and curiouser as Alice said. Did you hear this story from the new management at Frederick Tranter? If so then the management do not communicate well with their Bath and Oxbridge shops as this is the first they have heard of it. (I telephoned today and those I spoke to were unaware that the lines were to be discontinued.)

  • why would they know?
  • Well, they would have to know at some point as they are the ones that sell it.
  • @PhilipS

    They'd be the last to know if company folds or anything dramatic happens.
  • They are still going to sell snuff just under the Wilsons label since Wilsons makes it anyway. That what I was told by the sales guy at least.
  • That is slightly different. 
  • yeah an edit would be nice in the title.

     

  • @mr.snuff:  not to keep beating a dead horse, but does this mean I can expect to see Cotswold with a Wilson's label?
  • Good thing I never tried it, now I won't know what I am missing out on.
  • Cotswold is pretty much fancy Strasbourg with less citric notes
  • Aw snap, I'm keen on their Regency, but can't see any on Mr Snuff to stock up with.  
  • The thing is there are Wilsons equivalents for every flavor of Freddy T. They will simply be selling Wilsons instead. Whether or not they will brand it with their "flavors" is open to question. That I do not know. However when I tried to buy the Freddy T labelled tins I was told that they are no longer being made. 

    The Wilsons equivalents have always been available. For example Cotswold is just Strasbourg asTomStrasbourg more or less says. My understanding is they are one and the same; perhaps there are batch differences but there are no recipe differences. This is not uncommon. You see it with G Smith and sons; Jaxons etc. They are simply rebranded, existing, big manufacturer snuffs. Perhaps the rebranding primes our brains to detect a diference?
  • So all of them will be "covered", then? So one need not add  the appealing ones to thier cart? Is there some sort of chart or list, about the equivalent flavors?
  • look and expectation effect flavors.
  • Interesting.  Which is the WoS equivalent for Regency?
  •  what about the light mint and glacier ??
  • cstokes4cstokes4 Member, Moderator
    If the name isn't on the tin, then the name does not exist, so the thread title is accurate.

  • snuffpubsnuffpub Member
    edited January 2012 PM
    Our contact at Wilsons confirmed that the Frederick Tranter line is no more. Like Mr. Snuff pointed out, the Tranter line is just a brand name. All of the flavors are still available under the Wilsons line. Wilsons had been keeping the Tranter name alive out of nostalgia, but it's no longer economically feasible for them to continue doing so.

    Also: yes, Cotswald and Strasbourg are exactly the same. They're the same recipe made on the same production line. One goes in a Wilsons tin and the other goes in the Freddy T tin. As far as I know all the Tranter snuffs are/were re-labeled Wilsons flavors.


  • n9inchnailsn9inchnails Moderator
    edited January 2012 PM

    FT IHT#22 and WoS IHT#22 are clearly NOT the same stuff.  I have both side by side with me right now and they aren't even the same colour or grind (the WoS version is slightly finer grind and the FT version has little flecks in it) and the WoS version has more flavour to my nose.

  • WoS snuffs are usually duplicated somewhere else in their various guises and I have certainly been sent one when I had ordered the other, if you see what I mean. I can sometimes blind test someone on the same snuff btw so don't rely on your senses too much.
  • Sad news. I really like the 29 Special. I've always only taken small pinches of it, so I have enough to last me for a while yet.
  • Yep, I had to work in Oxford on Saturday, and made time to find the store there. According to the helpful guy there they are now known as Havana House, but still offer Frederick Tranter snuffs - they had boxes full of the tins. He said they didn't sell a lot of it, but the fact that they had none on display in the window nor inside the shop, just the boxes hidden down on a low shelf behind the counter, with a list proffered when I asked about snuff probably doesn't help - a "what are those tins" moment could lead to a lot more sales if they had them on display.

    I was wary about buying as I know they're 'rebadged' Wilson's snuffs, so I got the Lemon and Thyme as it was clear what that was scented with, along with Grand Cairo (as I don't have the WoS version I knew I was on safe ground) and Princes, the scent of which was described on the list as 'None', though when I take a pinch my nose says Brunswick.
    It's not as moist as my tin of Brunswick, though this may be explained by the bubbles of rust on the outside of the tin. :))

    Would've bought more if I'd could've been sure they were ones I didn't already have.
  • I posted this somewhere else a while back, but maybe it will useful if I post it again. Here are the Freddy T - Wilsons equivalents:

    BEAU NASH BEST DARK

    CITRUS LEMON GROVE

    COTSWOLD STRASBOURG

    COUNTRY DOCTOR ANNISEED & EUCALYPTUS

    FINISTAIRE MORLAIX

    HOBSONS CHOICE EXTRA CRUMBS OF COMFORT

    DR JOHNSON QUEENS

    LIGHT MINT COUNTRY MINT

    OTTO DE ROSE ROSE

    REGENCY TOM BUCK

    29 SPECIAL ROYAL GEORGE

    MEDICATED EXTRA MENTHOL
    GLACIER EXTRA MENTHOL

    BEST SP BEST SP

    WALLFLOWER WALLFLOWER

    MENTHOL MENTHOL

    CARNATION CARNATION

    JOCKEY CLUB JOCKEY CLUB

    IRISH HIGH TOAST No 22 IRISH HIGH TOAST No 22
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